Jim Beckett, is actually a friend of mine. I have known him personally since 1981, before Beckett Monthly existed. I know that he would consider THE FIRST TOPPS CARD of a ROOKiE player, who had still not yet played a game outside of his rookie season, a rookie card.
Just an illustration that multitudes of people disagree with your definition and interpretation of what a rookie card is. Your description of a rookie card is like Bill Clinton telling us that oral sex isn't sex.
Search eBay, you will find dozens of examples of this card being described as a rookie card ( for obvious reasons, he was still a rookie ) https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRETT-FAVRE-1992-TOPPS-696-ROOKIE-CARD/293330077675?hash=item444bd5c7eb:g:ypcAAOSwNaBdQh8M
Still aavaa rookie. Farve was still a rookie. If he had died the day the card was made, he would forever have been ONLY a rookie. I have many times read Jim's discussions on this subject. Yes, it's Jim. I am on a first name basis with Mr Beckett to you.
You doubt that Jim is my friend ? He used to set up a display at my Superstar Celebrity Autograph Baseball card shows. He was right next to Mike Cramer of Cramer Sports Promotions, now known as Pacific Trading Cards.
It is indeed one of his rookie cards. He was still rookie status, had not yet played a game in his sophomore season. It's a first regular issue Topps card. There are hundreds of examples I can site throughout the hobby of other " rookie cards " like this. It's just semantics to argue this isn't a rookie, when he was still rookie status at the time of its release.
It’s his first regular topps card, so according to that they may consider it his rookie card for that brand,but I don’t consider it his rookie card as he has already played for falcons.
He was still rookie status, as he had not yet played a game that was not his rookie season. If he was still a rookie, this has to be a rookie card. I didn't say it was his most valuable card, I said it's a rookie card, which it is.
Having rated rookie on a card does not make it a rookie card. How can you even say and think that? Again you are confusing a real life rookie with a real rookie card.
Bwahahaha, right. Rated Rookie is not a rookie. Good one. I never said this Favre card is his first card, I said it's a rookie card. He was still a rookie when it was made. How can it not be a rookie ?
You are confusing real life rookie status in various leagues with rookie cards. You only have a true rookie year card once. Try and justify it all you want. You only have one rookie year card. Do you consider Mcgwire's first year with the cardinals a rookie card, since it is his first year with the club? With your way of thinking it is. But it's not.
I am not confusing anything. I have been doing this since 1969. I know how to define rookie. You're the one who has the problem. Is a 1952 Mickey Mantle not his rookie then ? Is McGwire's Rated Rookie card not a rookie, like it says on the card ?
85 is mcgwire's rookie CARD!!! 86 was his rookie year with the A's. You only have one rookie year, not 2 or 3. Therefore you only have 1 rookie card year. Simple logic. Not hard to understand
Look up the definition for rookie status. You can be a rookie for several years. I have Vladimir Guerrero Jr Rookie cards various years, and he is still a rookie, even now until he plays next year.
He was in regular base sets of 1991 sets. 91 cards are his rookie cards. Pro set platinum, Pacific, upper deck, Topps stadium club,etc. I know the examples you are talking about. But those were in update sets, not regular issue from a previous year. 92 is not his rookie card year